i'm mainly looking at inkstar. he shows potential for ils (the q ranking) but would need to stretch it to all ils (the p% ranking). he's also hamstrung by the lack of a baseline 120 time (a 2:59 or so). the big one to look out for, but not the 🐐 yet

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@shoutplenty

who is the 🐐 of super mario sunshine speedrunning? it's not a topic the jedi would tell you about...

these are the Top Players™ in each of the 3 main categories. FYG is a league of his own for ils, then there're 4 wr contenders in any% + 2 in 120 – all different players [1/9]

3/9/2024, 2:18:58 PM

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the il ranking is a bit deceptive bc there are 2 things to look out for
– the q metric (by which the table is sorted) measures performance over a player's submitted ils, whereas
– the p% metric covers all ils
q counts everyone's common ground (mostly any% ils)

3/9/2024, 2:18:59 PM

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historically, the 🐐 has been considered guy2308, whose records all date back to 2021. a top player at any% and 120, he would also be ranked 9th on il q-rank, albeit a distant 9th at 86.4%, which is hardly comparable to the top players. but the story is similar for the others

3/9/2024, 2:18:59 PM

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let's start with the top any% players, since any% is weighed far more for effort than the other 2 categories

@JJsrll: 14th @ 120 (2:59); 21st (p%) / 25th (q) @ ils (77%)
@toobou: 10th @ 120 (2:59); no ils
@inkstarLum: no 120; 14th (p%) / 2nd (q) [top player] @ ils

3/9/2024, 2:19:00 PM

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down the any% list: @diddeh14, an old version of guy2308 in each category – the two were the last true all-rounders of sms. @Nanashi_745 appears on 2 lists, wr on one, but has no ils. @ricco4in4338 appears twice as well, down in 15th (2:59) for 120

the rest only excel at any%

3/9/2024, 2:19:00 PM

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at the end of his career, guy had wr in two categories and was considered a top player in ils, tho the latter has aged poorly as the meta pulled itself together. with the bar raised now, i think he could be toppled as the goat by a player who gets top 3 in two categories

3/9/2024, 2:19:01 PM

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i'm mainly looking at inkstar. he shows potential for ils (the q ranking) but would need to stretch it to all ils (the p% ranking). he's also hamstrung by the lack of a baseline 120 time (a 2:59 or so). the big one to look out for, but not the 🐐 yet

3/9/2024, 2:19:01 PM

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an outside contender is nanashi, but i think his any% time straggles far from wr, and the lack of ils then kills it

many specialists (fyg, jj) have struggled to cross over into other categories. some all-rounders (urbani) are steadily improving, could be ones to watch next year

3/9/2024, 2:19:02 PM

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the achilles's heal of sms (vs sm64 say) is its single-category focus. the 120 category is too long and rng-heavy to be competitive, so players fixate on any% and burn out much more easily. so there are few people who are even motivated to become the 🐐. alas [9/9]

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