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fleegar

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it's weird... w/ ppl always being so hostile towards accurate leaderboards, and the bingo-player reaction to toburr's ils being that it was "gross", "disgusting" to retain even the times of those ils... you'd think that society favours right to be forgotten over archival [1/12]

5/22/2023, 2:08:05 AM

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fleegar

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so the decision to comply and distort the leaderboard went against expectations of archiving, was rather done to avoid conflict owing to the substantial harassment that often accompanies processing personal data, as was the case with toburr, and the second screenshot alludes to

5/22/2023, 2:08:06 AM

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fleegar

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but leaderboards in general (e.g. speedrun .com) have the same anti-archival attitude, and it's reflected in dominant (at least vocally) attitudes to removing personae-non-gratae from leaderboards. so what gives?

(and here comes the editorial...)

it's postmodernism

5/22/2023, 2:08:07 AM

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fleegar

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postmodernism is the idea that the way ppl experience reality is more meaningful than the reality itself

the most prominent postmodern idea today is gender ideology's circular definition of woman as the feeling of being a woman. this is in contrast to building the concept from—

5/22/2023, 2:08:07 AM

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fleegar

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a base reality (set of biological distinctions) and consequent applied realities (the stereotypes, then the social role one is/wants to be seen in). it seems like it's hard for ppl to bear a malleable, nuanced concept of "woman" in mind w/o declaring a postmodern one the true one

5/22/2023, 2:08:08 AM

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fleegar

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to wind in the analogy – it should be easy for ppl to accept that sms any% wr is objective yet ambiguous. we have an rta wr and a loadless wr. but people seem to be wired to propagate their own experience of wr and fight emotionally-charged battles if someone disagrees

5/22/2023, 2:08:08 AM

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fleegar

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many of the takes supporting erasing guy2308 referenced the "reality" that results from how ppl react to his abuses and the decisions mods make. i counter that such a reality is meaningless. it depends on the politics of the time and doesn't fit natural intuitions on what a wr is

5/22/2023, 2:08:09 AM

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fleegar

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if we allow a leaderboard to be an aggregate of postmodern takes ("guy/toburr doesn't have any%/gelato-3 wr") then we lie to everyone who doesn't already know. and nobody should be happy with that

which leads to the crux: postmodernism = individualism and archival = collectivism

5/22/2023, 2:08:10 AM

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fleegar

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i think that reality being constructed of people speaking things into existence is ruinous to society, and reading the law and uk national archives talking about the point of archiving at all makes me much more confident that i'm right about what a leaderboard should be

5/22/2023, 2:08:10 AM

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fleegar

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and r.e. gender, it's beyond the scope to discuss why postmodernism is bad, but it causes cognitive dissonance, riles ppl up vs each other and impedes balancing rights of different classes

affirming transgender womanhood doesn't require invalidating non-womanhood, basically

5/22/2023, 2:08:11 AM

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fleegar

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it is hard to give passing treatment of such a deep charged topic but it was important to me to clarify how *in my view* much of the tension in both topics is rooted in the same problem (= postmodernism)

ig the analogue of terfism is saying guy isnt an abuser? bun dat :p [12/12]

5/22/2023, 2:08:11 AM

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