i could also cite jer: "you were banned for abusing your friends". jpep had a big role in secretly gossiping about what happened with 1ups as well<br><br>so we, the first parties, agreed that there was no abuse (in the cancel sense of the word), no victim protection aspect, or anything

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@shoutplenty

i should give an update on my sms ban. things have cleared up a little (thx to the wonder of communication) and it all seems rather simpler now so i'll try to summarise it for erry1

so remember that my basic pov is that the ban was just for arguments that got out of hand [1/12]

5/12/2023, 5:09:24 AM

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@shoutplenty

i spoke to jeff and a friend interviewed 1ups and both their stances... seem to match? with jeff, i happily took two months for slandering him, and we both validated each other's grievances and are just done with our whole dispute

1ups also considers our dispute personal

5/12/2023, 5:09:25 AM

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and in fact condemned that the mods presented it as abuse. the causality here is:
1. she shows mlarvitar my letter to her
2. mlarvitar describes the letter to mods, no disclosure but plenty of spin
3. the mods, unaware of what i did, say i abused someone
4. onlookers interpret:

5/12/2023, 5:09:25 AM

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@shoutplenty

i could also cite jer: "you were banned for abusing your friends". jpep had a big role in secretly gossiping about what happened with 1ups as well

so we, the first parties, agreed that there was no abuse (in the cancel sense of the word), no victim protection aspect, or anything

5/12/2023, 5:09:26 AM

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@shoutplenty

there are just the lengths i went to to take responsibility for how i treated them privately, to apologise, and their own choice on if they wanna apologise back for their part in it

so if i'm not guilty of abuse then what am i guilty of?

5/12/2023, 5:09:26 AM

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@shoutplenty

when the mods were confronted with this, they pivoted and said this isn't the core issue and never was. they're keen to never unban me, citing things like this (https://twitter.com/shoutplenty/status/1634210741942206464). in fact, i'm being accused of bullying ppl in the chat made to address me being bullied lol

5/12/2023, 5:09:27 AM

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@shoutplenty

it seems to me i was banned for being difficult, basically. exhausting to argue with, often accusatory, very demanding of victim protection r.e. my abuser, initiating callouts, intervening when unpopular ppl get bullied, etc.

that's what i did

5/12/2023, 5:09:28 AM

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and what they said? "abuse". must be kept secret to protect someone. they couldn't legitimise the ban any other way. i don't think i'm omitting anything; it rly is this disgusting

u see the discussion on the ban day, ppl's perceptions, ostracisation, and this is what it was for

5/12/2023, 5:09:28 AM

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@shoutplenty

the point is, what u see out in the open is what i'm banned for. that's it. permaban. they won't unban me if i don't accept the false basis for the ban. they won't cite/discuss what i'm doin wrong, yet demand that i change it. warspy is also still lying about warning me despite—

5/12/2023, 5:09:29 AM

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me disproving it (https://shoutplenty.netlify.app/case/sms/me/mods/#what-chances)

i don't wanna be unbanned, rather want to use the leaderboards and, most of all, to be cleared of the false accusations of abuse. what i'm guilty of and whether i should be treated this way really need more open discussion

5/12/2023, 5:09:29 AM

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anyway, it's a pretty mad struggle to get anyone to do anything about this so i'm also just wandering around looking for opinions basically. i'd appreciate some dms, and/or telling the mods what you think (just be wary of how they exploit secrecy)

5/12/2023, 5:09:30 AM

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to put my activist hat on – hacked file was such a struggle to make happen bc the mods did what they wanted w/ no care to be accountable. it took months of yelling at them in public to get it to change. there's no other way to make them reflect what the majority thinks [12/12]

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