@Jer_72 @ricco4in4338 i understand your pain bc i went through the same type of abuse myself. i think you should give my experience w/ lu a careful read, and note the resulting fallout i had w/ 1ups, to get perspective on the more-serious consequences it can have and feel better about your own case

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@Jer_72 @ricco4in4338 everyone must learn to distinguish personal issues from public-interest issues, and to me your criticisms of urbani's post-ban behaviour and character fall into personal. it's important to read and act on people personally, but you cannot pretend that you're speaking objectively

11/11/2022, 12:33:49 AM

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@Jer_72 @ricco4in4338 i think your demands for what would be "respecting his ban" are too far – they're not required by the ban and such a requirement would be abusive. i also think many of the emotional consequences you blame him for are excessive to what he actually did

11/11/2022, 12:33:57 AM

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@Jer_72 @ricco4in4338 you don't have the right to publicly criticise anyone for being friends with him, and it's slander to prejudicially pre-emptively accuse him (of revenge here) before he actually does it. these two things i've so far only ever seen mlarvitar do and they rot communities

11/11/2022, 12:34:06 AM

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@Jer_72 @ricco4in4338 i understand your pain bc i went through the same type of abuse myself. i think you should give my experience w/ lu a careful read, and note the resulting fallout i had w/ 1ups, to get perspective on the more-serious consequences it can have and feel better about your own case

11/11/2022, 12:34:28 AM

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@Jer_72 @ricco4in4338 urbani manipulated + shittalked u p badly, but it was cleared up within weeks; he didn't coolly, knowingly persist it for 7mths. you didn't get banned, publicly attacked, have to expose him alone. you didn't >>lose friends over it and have ppl act like u don't exist around them<<

11/11/2022, 12:34:45 AM

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@Jer_72 @ricco4in4338 and w that perspective, when i see this post 9 months later, i feel that he has the right to be left alone. i hope you find a way to handle your abuse personally (i suggest a restraining order), and avoid this sms-community-style toxicity, i.e.

11/11/2022, 12:34:53 AM

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@Jer_72 @ricco4in4338 the bullying in the name of victims, pinning blame for arbitrary feelings of victimhood on people, and cancelling by popularity contest

an example that i kno you understand is bingo players saying it's ok to bully me cos i deleted an il (and put it back when questioned)

11/11/2022, 12:35:03 AM

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@Jer_72 @ricco4in4338 i've been very candid here bc i feel i don't owe you friendship after you banned me from your discord w/o a word. but you are the one who even vaguely went thru similar abuse to me and so i've always empathised and rooted for you to work it out [9/9]

11/11/2022, 12:35:19 AM

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